Curse

NerfHerder · Sep 02, 2010, 09:37 PM // 21:37

So, the live team consists of like 4 people? and GW2 has like 100+?

I dont understand Anets priorities here. All we know about the GW2 release date is that it will be released sometime in 2011(possibly). Adding 4 people to 100, shouldnt make much of a difference. But, if they took 4 people from GW2 and added it to the live team it would only be roughly a 4% reduction for GW2, so at maximum(if GW2 was a year away) it would only delay the release date by 2 weeks(not very long). On the flip side, the live team would get updates out for GW1 twice as fast, turning 6mo into 3mo.

Why does this concern me? Because I love GW1 and I'm sure Ill love GW2. I just want something GW related inbetween the long wait for GW2. And its been proven that word of mouth is the most effective advertising mechanism. So, if they want GW2 to be successful they should keep GW1 players happy with content and updates./endrant

OT..

Where did Thackery go? It rhymes with Ebonhawke. I think thats where his secret garden is.

Chrisworld · Sep 02, 2010, 11:00 PM // 23:00

I'd love to see Ebonhawke in GW1, that would be cool as hell.

Lord Dagon · Sep 02, 2010, 11:28 PM // 23:28

for some really weird reason i keep thinking that thackery somehow got into cantha(i mean they did say the new GW:B content would be there right?) and hes somehow gonan mess something up that will make us do some very long winded dialouges and some quests that are sure to make consets incredibly useful

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eh but yea the whole gwen thackary love thing.. so funny

AngelWJedi · Sep 03, 2010, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

for some really weird reason i keep thinking that thackery somehow got into cantha(i mean they did say the new GW:B content would be there right?) and hes somehow gonan mess something up that will make us do some very long winded dialouges and some quests that are sure to make consets incredibly useful

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eh but yea the whole gwen thackary love thing.. so funny

man this would be cool if its true.

NerfHerder · Sep 03, 2010, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

for some really weird reason i keep thinking that thackery somehow got into cantha(i mean they did say the new GW:B content would be there right?) and hes somehow gonan mess something up that will make us do some very long winded dialouges and some quests that are sure to make consets incredibly useful

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Your probably thinking that because it was said that after the Thackery storyline is finished, he would like to take GW:B into Cantha.

Gill Halendt · Sep 03, 2010, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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In Cantha, the successor of emperor Kisu defeated the Kurzick and Luxon factions and reunited Cantha under one banner. Cantha then became much more isolationist; all non-human races were pushed out and the borders fortified. With the elder dragon's undead corsair fleet disrupting travel, there has been no contact with mainland Canthans for a generation.

I thought the Canthan part was going to be about the Emperor finally taking over rival factions and unifying the continent again. Maybe just the events leading to this, such as the demise of Kisu, the rise of the new Emperor and such.

Iuris · Sep 03, 2010, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Well, problem is, the Emperor that does all the unifying is a descendant of the current one. So, I doubt we'll be seeing the unification. Rather, I expect we'll see something that explains why the war between the Luxons and Kurzicks is no longer needed by the empire, so they finally decide to gobble them up.

I expect we'll see more inter-racial tension, probably a rekindling of the Tengu wars, leading to the emperor deciding it's time the Kurzicks and Luxons were brought to heel...

BrettM · Sep 03, 2010, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by NerfHerder

if they took 4 people from GW2 and added it to the live team it would only be roughly a 4% reduction for GW2, so at maximum(if GW2 was a year away) it would only delay the release date by 2 weeks(not very long). On the flip side, the live team would get updates out for GW1 twice as fast, turning 6mo into 3mo.

If a woman can make a baby in 9 months, can 9 women make a baby in 1 month? If a ship can cross the ocean in 5 days, can 5 ships cross the ocean in 1 day? Your analysis is a little simplistic.

Ka Tet · Sep 03, 2010, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by BrettM

If a woman can make a baby in 9 months, can 9 women make a baby in 1 month? If a ship can cross the ocean in 5 days, can 5 ships cross the ocean in 1 day? Your analysis is a little simplistic.

Your analogies are bad. Those are all time dependent.

Sword Hammer Axe · Sep 03, 2010, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

Too funny.

Does get you curious though. I mean, Gwen was always so mean to Thackery and treated him badly. So I wouldn't doubt him running off with Langmar.

No seriously go look at HoM... the dialogue there explains what happened to both Langmar and Thackeray...

FengShuiDove · Sep 03, 2010, 01:50 PM // 13:50

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CliffHanger

The pacing in the Lord of the Rings movies was super weird too. A year between entering Mordor and, what, entering Mordor more? And the Harry Potter movies. And the Narnia movies. And the Matrix movies. And any other canonically continuous series. It's part of willing suspension of disbelief.

RedStar · Sep 03, 2010, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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If a woman can make a baby in 9 months, can 9 women make a baby in 1 month? If a ship can cross the ocean in 5 days, can 5 ships cross the ocean in 1 day? Your analysis is a little simplistic.

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The real analogy is : if it takes 1 person to build a building in 10 months, can 10 persons build it in 1 month ?

BrettM · Sep 03, 2010, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

Your analogies are bad. Those are all time dependent.

I was trying to point out that it is simplistic to assume that doubling a workforce will double their speed by using humorous examples where this is clearly not the case.

If you prefer a better analogy, imagine building a house, instead. Doubling the number of workers will not double the speed with which the house is built, because there are time and sequence dependecies in various stages of the job. There are tasks on which you can expect diminishing returns as you add more workers. You can't put up framing until the foundation is ready, and concrete takes time to cure. You can't start installing wiring until there are walls in which to install it. Cramming 50 more plumbers into a bathroom will not get the toilet installed any faster.

Gondrakif · Sep 03, 2010, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by BrettM

I was trying to point out that it is simplistic to assume that doubling a workforce will double their speed by using humorous examples where this is clearly not the case.

If you prefer a better analogy, imagine building a house, instead. Doubling the number of workers will not double the speed with which the house is built, because there are time and sequence dependecies in various stages of the job. There are tasks on which you can expect diminishing returns as you add more workers. You can't put up framing until the foundation is ready, and concrete takes time to cure. You can't start installing wiring until there are walls in which to install it. Cramming 50 more plumbers into a bathroom will not get the toilet installed any faster.

You don't have to assume anything. You already know. The live team used to have more people and i think everyone remembers how much less wait time there was between updates. So if more people were to be added on the team it would be safe to say updates would come by faster.

Back on topic. Langmar... enough said

Thackery i would like to get a mission or something where you beat the crap out of charr/bandits/grawls to take him back and then some cut-scene with Gwen but i think it's out of the question. As long as we get something it's better than leaving it like this

BrettM · Sep 03, 2010, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by Gondrakif

So if more people were to be added on the team it would be safe to say updates would come by faster.

What part of "double" is confusing you? The OP said that doubling the number of people would double the speed of updates. I was challenging that notion. I did not say that updates would not be produced faster than they are now.

Ka Tet · Sep 03, 2010, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by BrettM

I was trying to point out that it is simplistic to assume that doubling a workforce will double their speed by using humorous examples where this is clearly not the case.

If you prefer a better analogy, imagine building a house, instead. Doubling the number of workers will not double the speed with which the house is built, because there are time and sequence dependecies in various stages of the job. There are tasks on which you can expect diminishing returns as you add more workers. You can't put up framing until the foundation is ready, and concrete takes time to cure. You can't start installing wiring until there are walls in which to install it. Cramming 50 more plumbers into a bathroom will not get the toilet installed any faster.

Much better analogy. However when your talking about a group that small, diminishing returns probably would not be much of a concern unless you added many more workers.
Also, I don't think he was attempting to provide a mathematical formula for workforce variance. I think it was more of a guesstimate.
Soooo....yea...while doubling the size of the live team would not exactly double the time for updates, it should push them out considerably faster.

MithranArkanere · Sep 04, 2010, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

Too funny.

Does get you curious though. I mean, Gwen was always so mean to Thackery and treated him badly. So I wouldn't doubt him running off with Langmar.

Gwen is a tsundere.
You don't run off when your are courting a tsundere, you ALWAYS want the tsundere.
They are INCREDIBLE on the bed.

But you must 'tame' them a little first.

pumpkin pie · Sep 04, 2010, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o

I can see it now Gwen..
Wastrel's Worry-Mistrust-Confusing Images-Panic-Chaos Storm-Cry of Pain

Where do you think these two ran off too?
Big battles always get me excited too, i don't blame them.

Langmar is dead WAHHHHHHH

` should have been gwen

Nerel · Sep 04, 2010, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Langmar is dead WAHHHHHHH

` should have been gwen

It's not too late for that... it's never too late for that.

I think Keiran was wounded, and Nola has him secreted away somewhere while she tends his wounds...

Langmar... shallow grave for all I care, but Thackeray lives, and he's still too good for that cold fish, Gwen.

Phaern Majes · Sep 04, 2010, 08:40 AM // 08:40

Kanaxai is back from the dead and looking for revenge. The Deep dungeon levels 2 & 3. BiP's on parade.